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Exclusive Interview

Nov 27, 2024

Produced by: Andrej Aroch

Edited by: Rudy Manager & Andrej Aroch

Elyas – “On BS by Drake & 21 Savage is exactly the kind of hip-hop production I love”

In this exclusive interview with Studio Talks, we sit down with Elyas, a German-based music producer who has carved out a successful career working with some of the biggest names in the industry. Elyas has produced for industry heavyweights such as J. Cole, Drake, and 21 Savage. In this conversation, he offers a behind-the-scenes look at his creative process, early influences, and experiences navigating the music industry while based in Europe. He also reflects on the story behind the hit record “7 Minute Drill” by J. Cole and shares valuable advice for upcoming music producers. The interview was conducted by Andrej Aroch via video call on November 8th, 2024.


Can you share how you first got interested in music and then transitioned into music production?

I grew up around a lot of musicians in my family. The first time I really got interested in making music was when I was pretty young—maybe around five or six. My grandparents used to have a piano at their house and I would just go and try to play it whenever I visited them. Obviously, I wasn’t really playing, but I felt a strong urge to do so. My parents then ended up enrolling me in piano lessons, and I played for a few years.

Unfortunately, during my teenage years, it became harder to stay disciplined with learning an instrument, especially because I wasn’t playing the kind of music I wanted to play. I was learning classical music, which wasn’t really what I listened to at the time, so I eventually lost interest.

Around that time, I started to get interested in music production. My father, who’s also a musician, had a recording program on his old computer, so I became interested in what he was doing. I started messing around with it and made some basic drum loops. That was my first real exposure to production.

I didn’t fully dive into it until later, though. I got FL Studio as a gift for my 18th birthday, which was when I really started making music on my own. Before that, I would occasionally experiment with my dad’s setup, but getting FL Studio was what really got me started in music production, and it just evolved from there.

When you first started seriously making beats, what was your process of promoting your music? How did you find people to collaborate with?

Honestly, at first, I didn’t even reach out to people. I spent a lot of time just working on my own, watching others make music, and figuring out what I wanted to do. I think it was around 2017 or 2018 when I saw a workshop by OZ held in Stuttgart, Germany. I decided to go, even though I didn’t know anyone there. Through that workshop, I ended up meeting a bunch of producers, and some of them I stayed in contact with. That’s really where things started.

For those first few years, I wasn’t actively promoting myself or connecting with others. I just focused on learning and practicing. The workshop was kind of the turning point. I had a few casual contacts before that, but nothing really serious. At the workshop, there were about 30 people, so I met a lot of new faces, and from there, things just naturally progressed.

Can you recall the first song or project that made you realize music could be your career?

It was around the time I went to a second workshop with OZ. This one was a collaboration workshop he did with Foreign Teck in Zurich, Switzerland. By then, I felt my music had gotten pretty solid. Foreign Teck actually showed interest in signing me, and after the workshop, he did. Those workshops gave us the chance to showcase our music, and soon after, I started working on songs that I either produced or contributed to in some way.

I got signed in December 2018, and by January 2019, I had my first breakthrough song recorded to one of my loops. That was the moment where I thought, "Okay, this is actually something I can take seriously." It took about a year and a half for that song to be officially released, so it was a long process, but during that time, a lot of other songs started coming in too. I remember some incredible artists recording on things I’d worked on, and that was completely new for me.

It was an intense period where a lot happened all at once, and that’s when I started to believe that maybe I was actually good at this. Before then, I didn’t really think I could make music a career; I didn’t feel I was good enough. But that period changed my perspective.

Can you describe your creative process when you start working on a beat from scratch? Do you have any specific rituals or routines you follow before starting?

As for the actual creative process, I don’t stick to a strict method. I try to go with my feelings and not overthink things. I’ll turn on any sound, find someone else’s sample, or start with a drum loop—basically, anything that sparks inspiration. That’s usually how I begin. There's no real set framework; I just try to be as free and spontaneous as possible.

Can you recall the first song or project that made you realize music could be your career?

It was around the time I went to a second workshop with OZ. This one was a collaboration workshop he did with Foreign Teck in Zurich, Switzerland. By then, I felt my music had gotten pretty solid. Foreign Teck actually showed interest in signing me, and after the workshop, he did. Those workshops gave us the chance to showcase our music, and soon after, I started working on songs that I either produced or contributed to in some way.

I got signed in December 2018, and by January 2019, I had my first breakthrough song recorded to one of my loops. That was the moment where I thought, "Okay, this is actually something I can take seriously." It took about a year and a half for that song to be officially released, so it was a long process, but during that time, a lot of other songs started coming in too. I remember some incredible artists recording on things I’d worked on, and that was completely new for me.

It was an intense period where a lot happened all at once, and that’s when I started to believe that maybe I was actually good at this. Before then, I didn’t really think I could make music a career; I didn’t feel I was good enough. But that period changed my perspective.

Can you describe your creative process when you start working on a beat from scratch? Do you have any specific rituals or routines you follow before starting?

As for the actual creative process, I don’t stick to a strict method. I try to go with my feelings and not overthink things. I’ll turn on any sound, find someone else’s sample, or start with a drum loop—basically, anything that sparks inspiration. That’s usually how I begin. There's no real set framework; I just try to be as free and spontaneous as possible.

Can you recall the first song or project that made you realize music could be your career?

It was around the time I went to a second workshop with OZ. This one was a collaboration workshop he did with Foreign Teck in Zurich, Switzerland. By then, I felt my music had gotten pretty solid. Foreign Teck actually showed interest in signing me, and after the workshop, he did. Those workshops gave us the chance to showcase our music, and soon after, I started working on songs that I either produced or contributed to in some way.

I got signed in December 2018, and by January 2019, I had my first breakthrough song recorded to one of my loops. That was the moment where I thought, "Okay, this is actually something I can take seriously." It took about a year and a half for that song to be officially released, so it was a long process, but during that time, a lot of other songs started coming in too. I remember some incredible artists recording on things I’d worked on, and that was completely new for me.

It was an intense period where a lot happened all at once, and that’s when I started to believe that maybe I was actually good at this. Before then, I didn’t really think I could make music a career; I didn’t feel I was good enough. But that period changed my perspective.

Can you describe your creative process when you start working on a beat from scratch? Do you have any specific rituals or routines you follow before starting?

As for the actual creative process, I don’t stick to a strict method. I try to go with my feelings and not overthink things. I’ll turn on any sound, find someone else’s sample, or start with a drum loop—basically, anything that sparks inspiration. That’s usually how I begin. There's no real set framework; I just try to be as free and spontaneous as possible.

You co-produced '7 Minute Drill' by J. Cole, which was a diss track aimed at Kendrick Lamar that was deleted shortly after its release. Could you share the backstory behind creating this track and how you felt when it was taken down?

It’s a funny story—definitely a mix of emotions. Fun fact: the album actually got nominated for Best Rap Album. I’m not even sure if that means I’m Grammy-nominated because the track got deleted, but it’s a funny side story.

The track itself started off with a loop that my good friend Al Hug from Switzerland and I made together in October 2023. We’ve enjoyed a good relationship for many years now, and we work really well together—both musically and personally. We make a lot of great music together. After we made the loop, Al Hug sent it to Conductor Williams. Then, maybe a day before the release, I got a message from him saying, “Hey, we’ve got a J. Cole song dropping, and we need your info.” That same night, I got an email thread from the lawyers, and I saw it was set to release the next day.

This was actually our first song together, which was a really special moment. It was on a Conductor beat, which, considering his legacy and influence, was a huge deal. So, the song dropped the next day, and we were hyped—it was doing crazy numbers, everyone was talking about it. There was this beat switch by T-Minus, which became a hot topic too. It was special to me because he's has been someone I look up to for a long time.

But then, three days later, during J. Cole’s Dreamville Festival, he announced he would be taking the track down. My friend and I were texting, like, “Damn, what’s happening? Please don’t take it down.” And sure enough, about a week later, it was deleted. Even with that, the song still reached number six on the Billboard charts, so it was a whirlwind of emotions.

On “7 Minute Drill,” there’s a beat switch. Were you involved in the first part or the second part?

The second part. It was actually one of the first samples I recorded on my piano after I’d just brought it over from my parents’ house. Al Hug and I worked on that piano loop together.

Is there a track or project you’ve worked on that is your personal favorite?

“Without You” by Quavo is definitely a song that’s close to my heart. The day I started the idea was the same day my sister’s best friend passed away. My sister and I were living together at the time, so there was already a lot of emotion tied to that piece when I sent it to Eugene Tsai, who added the piano. Years later, Murda Beatz reached out, asking for that exact song, and I instantly knew I had to send that sample in particular because of the emotions it carried. I think Murda even told me that everyone involved with the song had their own personal connection to it, so that one is really special.

Besides that, one of my favorite songs I’ve worked on has to be “On BS” by Drake & 21 Savage. It’s exactly the kind of hip-hop production I love. When I made the sample I already knew it was something special and unique—at least to me. OZ’s drum game is always incredible and something special as well. Plus, 21 Savage is one of my favorite rappers. So, that’s definitely one of my favorites, if not my favorite track I’ve worked on.

You’re based in Germany, so I wonder—do you think it’s possible to become successful in the music industry, especially in hip-hop, even if you’re not based in the US? How has your experience been working from Europe in the hip-hop scene?

I think it’s definitely possible. It might actually be a bit more challenging now compared to when I started, simply because, back then, there weren’t as many people outside the US doing what I was doing—making music from abroad. But it’s still very doable.

You just have to be smart about how you network and make sure your music stands out enough that people can’t ignore you. With so many people making music now, it’s harder to stand out, especially if you’re not able to be in the same room as the artists and producers in the US. When you’re in places like LA and meeting people face-to-face, building those connections is “easier.” Someone’s impression of you as a person—someone’s sympathy for you—can be a huge factor. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still not an easy task to do, and you still need to make great music, but if you’re someone people enjoy working with, it can make a big difference.

For someone outside the US, though, it requires extra work. Your music skills and taste need to be well-developed, and your networking has to be on point. It’s not just a matter of saying, “Hey, can I send some loops?”

What advice would you give to new music producers who are just starting out and trying to establish themselves?

I know it’s probably something everyone says, but the music itself should always be your priority. That’s the main reason you’re entering a space—whether that’s a room, a studio, or any opportunity. The music has to come first, no matter what.

On top of that, I think it’s important to find your own musical identity. You need something that helps you stand out. Whether it’s your drum selection, your sound choices when making samples, the way you chop your own samples, or even creating your own unique loops—whatever it is, you need to build something that, when people hear your work, they’ll recognize it as yours. That’s really important.

Also, for the long run, make sure you’re educating yourself about the music business. Getting into the music industry might seem easy, but staying there is the real challenge. Staying relevant and consistently making money as a producer is much harder than just getting your first placements. So, you need to think about both sides: making great music and understanding the business side of things to ensure long-term success.

Follow Elyas on Instagram: @elyasxo

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